Infiltrating Hate: The Secret World of the FBI Undercover – A Podcast

I listen to quite a few podcasts – and not all of them have to do with language! One of the podcasts I listen to frequently is “The James Altucher Show“. I enjoy his interview style and his wide-ranging list of guests and topics.

I wanted to share an episode from his podcast: “Infiltrating Hate: The Secret World of the FBI Undercover” with Scott Payne. It has nothing to do with language or language acquisition, but I found this episode simply fascinating and thought I would pass it along.

Here is the description from the show’s website:

As you listen to this episode, ask yourself: would you do what my guest Scott Payne did for 28 years? He’s a retired undercover FBI agent who spent nearly three decades infiltrating some of the most dangerous groups in America—white supremacist organizations, outlaw biker gangs, and domestic terror cells. His new book, Code Name: Pale Horse, reveals the harrowing details of his undercover life, including moments where he was seconds away from being exposed and killed.

Scott spent 18 months embedded with the Outlaws motorcycle gang. In one chilling moment, they decided to strip-search him while he was wired up, a scenario that could have ended him on the spot. He also infiltrated the KKK in Alabama, adopting the codename Pale Horse to penetrate a violent neo-Nazi cell known as The Base, which was actively planning attacks and preparing for a so-called race war.

This is raw, unfiltered, and straight from the front lines of America’s most dangerous extremist groups. Scott took unimaginable risks to save lives and bring criminals to justice—all while balancing a wife, two daughters, and his faith. This episode is an unmissable look at the dark corners of our country and the people working to expose them.

I hope you find it as eye-opening as I did!

P.S. And yes, I bought the book and can’t wait to read it!